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    That looks like the amount 3DS gives is in the carts.

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    I noticed today that IGUS (bushing people) released a special properties filament.

    http://www.igus.com/3d-print-material/3d-print-material

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    Yeah, people use it to print their own IGUS bearings...

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    Yesterday, 3D Solutech delivered a test sample of "REAL ORANGE". It was enough for 1/2 a day of printing.
    Please note that I cannot find "real orange" on their web page. Just Orange is all I find and Amazon has "True Orange"
    https://www.amazon.com/3D-Solutech-F...BP3CJVC7CHQHMT

    3D-Solutech.PNG

    This filament is a more vivid than Inland and PrintRBot, but just shy of what 3DS delivers in PLA. Small sample but it is just a bit more glossy and a little more "washed out". Then again, 3DS seems to be the gold standard for color.

    This filament does present yet another level of material properties. It is "hard"! This presents a problem in the Cube 3 due to the fixed driver gap. In effect, it makes the driver diameter look larger; which makes the feed speed slight faster; which causes more blobs at the start/stop of each layer. Not much, but if you make articulates, it can weld. The difference is hardly worth mentioning except that you will hear the squirm of the driver on the pull-back. This could create a drive motor lifetime issue.

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    I also printed the hub clamp to understand the material memory. Here it is comparable with other filaments. It relaxes just like 3DS and PrintRBot. I suspect that over time it will be better than 3DS or Inland.

    I was impressed with the lack of strings. This is definitely a pro of this material. Having plenty of experience with the parts I've made, this is remarkable!

    Also never had the fossil wink

    Pro: better color vividness
    Pro: reasonable price-point
    Pro: excellent color selection and premiums
    Pro: Stick to LokBuild!

    con: harder than some (driver stress)

    This is a sample of one. Others may behave somewhat different. Would love to hear from someone else that has used 3D Solutech.

    11/04/17 update
    I got a full Kg of Teal from 3D Solutech. It is so close to the 3dS Teal that I am almost convinced that these guys are the secret suppliers to 3DS. Similar strength, color vividness, and feel. Anyone else try an of this? Am I just wishing this to be true?

    03/03/18 update
    I requested some samples of 3D Solutech's gold and skin colors just to check them out. Seems samples are just pulled from a bin so they sent me GITD blue. Not complaining, mind you. Just wanted to know what their metallics were like before ordering a full 2.2lbs of it.
    As for the GITD blue, it skips like most GITD PLA. It has that course texture but reasonably supple. Overall I don't think it will affect the print. Worst case means the print would be a bit "thin".

    03/09/18 update
    Seriously, I am not a 3D Solutech shill... just a prudent shopper. And I ran across the "free filament if you write a review on Amazon" offer. This means you need to make an Amazon purchase of course, but I had a qualifying purchase.
    Anyway, I wrote a short review and submitted it to 3D Solutech and they kindly send me a box of ABS assorted color pen pack. 12Cx10M of sample testing material. I've noted before the usefulness of these packs. You don't see them on their web site but you can find both ABS and PLA on Amazon: ABS PLA I'll let you know what I think of their ABS soon. I want to see how their gold comes out. Thank you 3D Solutech.

    I finally get to figure out what 3D Solutech considers Gold... but in the -other-material. And of course I used 3D Builder to print Marvin for reason already discussed about ABS printing Marvin.

    This ABS material is seriously outdated or improperly stored, or at least I hope so. Again, this is from 3D Solutech's promotional commercial PenPack. There was no desiccant in zip-lock pouch. You can see the extruded piece from a purge where it is not a simple string. And poor Marvin didn't even stand a chance. The layer-2-layer adhesion was tepid at best.
    On another note, this gold is mustard brown. I don't know that there are any metallic within the filament that facilitate enhanced presentation. I am not sure I want 2.2 lbs of "Dijon" colored filament.

    goldmarvin.PNGgoldmarvinoops.PNG

    The Gold ABS will be useless but the clear ABS is gaining some redemption...
    Still a few pops during printing but not so brittle as to fall apart in your hands.
    Sapphos using 3D Builder;

    Sapphos_clear.PNG

    03/22/2018 update...

    I am still impressed with the 3D Solutech purple ABS filament.
    Of the 10 meters, every inch has been excellent!
    I've never had such success with unsupported overhands in ABS:
    impress.PNG

    4/20 update: I received an email back from Luke at 3D Solutech and Luke confirmed that both the PLA and ABS in the fun-packs are the same as on the 1Kg reels. Way cool!

    4/24 update: ABS black in the fun pack was on the brittle side as I could easily rip the sidewalk . However, quite opaque. The two could be related. 4/25 Yellow ABS is fusing very nicely. Makings for a strong print.

    4/28 Blue ABS failed similar to black; poor adhesion to the previous layer; somewhat brittle. Green, seems stronger, a little more to test.
    Batting 75% on the ABS Fun Pack! Gold!/Black/Blue all failing (out of 12) Best yet was clear; brown, white, yellow, red, purple all tie for second. Still have orange and silver to go. Green is spooled up now.
    I'm having a newfound respect for -good- ABS. I have a newfound understanding of what -good- ABS is!

    5/3 update: down to two colors... orange and silver. Decided to give Silver ABS a shot and didn't hold much hope as a lot of metallics tend to fail due to hardness or excess moisture. While the feet where printing I could hear slight plosives (...popping sounds of air bubbles bursting.). When the print was done, it was a lot better than I thought it would come out like. Need more parts printed with this, but this looks as good as most of the lighter colors I've tested so far.
    3dsolutech_silver_abs.PNG ...and yes, this is 3D Builder (M$) since it does so much better on Marvin with ABS!
    Last edited by TommyDee; 05-03-2018 at 05:30 PM.

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    Finally ran out of the proprietary Neon Green and White the other day. Went to Fry's and picked up an ESun PLA+ Light Blue Filament.

    Pretty sure its this one : http://www.frys.com/product/9077157

    Initial Thoughts:
    NOTE: This is my first filament that isn't proprietary.

    This filament was a little harder than the stock and i noted a slight increase in resistance getting it in the gears. I've done 4-5 prints in the last two days with this new filament, and have had ZERO clogging. Big plus.

    This stuff seems to flow a little more than the stock filament, resulting in a slightly thinner extrude line, and more strings. This is causing gaps between lines that wasn't there before, and for whatever reason the finer details are getting lost. I suspect it has something to do with this filament cooling slower than stock that, or the retraction is off. This filament is slightly harder than stock as well

    The following are a few pictures of what I've printed with this filament.

    https://goo.gl/photos/SA8i7Q2quewsiiSr6

    Not sure what happened with the headphone clamp, printed overnight. I thought it was a clog, but purging it in the morning was fine.

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    Nice prints. Definitely a bit stringy. A tiny bit less gap would solve the "thin-ness" of the test print.
    I suspect the filament could have used a little more temp.

    eSun uses something proprietary. Not sure what. Their natural made for very brittle prints.
    And mine was old. Broke into a 1,000 pieces when I re-spooled it.

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    Yeah esun tends to break so easily...

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    Is there a way to adjust the gap without switching slicers? My Cube 3 was purchased second hand, and it won't allow me to print from USB

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    The gap adjustment is a maintenance function.
    It is stored with the printer and not in the print files or the desktop app.

    You might review the manual:

    http://cubify.s3.amazonaws.com/Print...user_guide.pdf
    http://cubify.s3.amazonaws.com/Print...tart_guide.pdf

    This is the download page: https://www.3dsystems.com/shop/support/cube/downloads

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    oh that gap adjustment. This is for the vertical height? Or does it end up adjusting horizontally as well?

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    There are two options... one is to level the bed and one is to set the gap.
    If the level is not within range, the screen on the printer will walk you through the leveling adjustments.
    The gap is set using the label of the included Mylar strip (light brown).
    If you do not have the Mylar strip, the thickness should be approximately 0.23mm, or about the thickness of 3 sheets of printer paper.

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    Just a quick note on something called APEX PLA filament. I might have bought the last spool available from Printrbot.

    It turns out APEX was made by Breathe-3DP(.com). They now have other materials at some serious premium cost.

    This is a nice opaque material. This red is still a little washed out, but it has good definition.

    You may not see APEX again, and I've asked (but no reply) to know if it is the same, but be on the lookout for other Breathe-3DP products.

    I have one other new brand coming tomorrow.


    apex.PNG

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    Another filament bites the dust.

    I will start with another fail just to put this in perspective:

    I bought a glow-in-the-dark blue PLA filament at one time.
    It was seriously brittle and had a course texture on the surface.
    I printed a few things but it clicked in the driver like mad!
    It is this unusual texture this new spool of PLA also exhibits.

    Okay, this brings us to a white PolyMaker PolyLite from Amazon $25- w/ free shipping.
    They have a few things to boast about the material.
    The temperature range is suppose to be 195-230.
    But the test print was thin and the driver was clicking away like mad.

    So I decided to test it using ABS temperatures.
    I monitored Cubify and the temps went up to 258*C.
    There is no burn marks on the print; it still clicks but not nearly as much.

    I won't even review this because for the Cube 3, it is an immediate rejection.
    Amazon is probably tired of me returning filament so I will test this long term at ABS temps.
    ...edit: never mind. I don't see any reason to keep this around. This filament has been returned.

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    This is a surprise entry.
    I ordered a 3D pen set of filament from Amazon.
    This gives me a selection of colors as the need arises.

    This is the Amazon link: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0727VXS3D

    Funny thing is that this filament is rated about 10*C lower than most PLA filament.
    This also means it flows very well in the Cube3.
    I've only tested one so far but I am impressed with this option.
    And it sticks to LokBuild just fine!

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    Last edited by TommyDee; 10-04-2017 at 07:12 PM.

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